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| mother son, drunk moms, 1996 cricket world cup, law, pissed off, naming, exquisite, internet anger, fuking, drunkteen fuck, writer, pissed at, refugee, | The rhetoric is persuasive and sometimes even clever, particularly from motherson incest the standpoint motherson incest of identifying hypocrisy ("Give to Caesar what is Caesar's", or in other words, if you think you don't owe taxes to Rome then why are you using its currency?). Granted, the arguments are filled with assumptions and some of Jesus' statements are assertions that you have to accept on his authority (the Son of Man must suffer and die, etc.). I respect Don's lack motherson incest of interest in Christianity, but I don't get the impression he is really familiar with what he's criticizing. BTW, I think that liberals would do a lot better if they did not treat the Bible as radioactive. I can think of no more effective way to subvert red state conservatives than to learn to speak their language "The devil can cite scripture for his purpose"--so why shouldn't a well meaning liberal atheist? |
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| And that's what I thought this conversation was about. Of course I think it matters whether or not Jesus was who he said he was, whether he lived, whether he dies, whether he rose, as well as the veractiy of the gospels (though I don't think that necessarily means a literal word for word reading of them). But, since I know that lots of people do not agree with me pissed off on this point, including yourself, I was just pointing out pissed off that you don't have to agree on that point to find it plausible that what the gospels pissed off say Jesus said is probably a valid source for thinking about Christian beliefs, particularly in a historical context, and coming to the conclusion that Christianity, as presented in the gospels, is not simply about human behavior above all else. Posted by: veruca | Dec 21, 2004 4:39:54 PM I think there are numerous examples of what Jesus says in the Bible that could be called argument Yeah, I'd have to agree with that. |
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