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Posted by: Josh Yelon | Dec 20, 2004 4:30:31 PM This is yet another situation in which the real threat to "traditional vales" is laissez-faire capitalism (in this case, the over-commercialization of Christmas). But since nobody can bear to publicly acknowledge that traditional values and laissez-faire capitalism are a really, really bad fit, we non-Christians serve as convenient scapegoats... Actually, plenty of people notice and publicly acknowledge it invented names (including, invented names for invented names what its worth, the Vatican, whose proclamations on social justice tend to swipe at both complete central planning and laissez-faire capitalism to an equal degree), but the rich capitalists with major media access that are trying to cloak their agenda in a veneer of "Christian" traditional values for some reason aren't among them. Funny, that. Posted by: cmdicely | Dec 20, 2004 4:32:43 PM Ah, Matt, this debate would all make much more sense to you if you realized that the major religious debates today have absolutely nothing to do with theology God, or even what we used to think of as religions anymore, because the folks that set the religious agenda have basically agreed that it doesn't matter who God is or what his
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